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Argos takes the Cool-Er e-book nationwide

Catalogue company Argos has become the latest retailer to sell an e-book reader. The Cool-Er sells for £189.99 and supports PDF and ePub formats. It has a six inch screen and can have 8,000 page turns on one battery charge.

A website, www.coolerbooks.co.uk, offers more than 750,000 titles for download. The device is also available via the Cool-Er website at the same price.

Writing on his BA blog, Martyn Daniels stated: "The distribution partnership effective starts to shift ebook readers into the consumer product market and alongside the myriad of other electrical devices." According to Daniels, Argos has some 700 stores, a turnover of £4.3bn,claims 130 million customers and catalogues some 17 million UK households.

The Cool-Er joins an increasingly crowded market of e-book reading devices. Earlier this month, Blackwell started selling the BeBook device, priced £199, following the launch of an e-book store on its website.

Amazon is expected to launch its Kindle device by the end of the year. Borders' Elonex device has the same price as the Cool-Er and was launched into stores in June.

Waterstone's has been selling the Sony Reader for almost a year. Argos also sells the Sony Reader, priced at £224.99

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Are you lot getting the hint yet?

"Kick start" is about the right term for a technology that is only of interest to technology lovers, and of vanishing significance to book lovers and those with sufficient sensitivity to appreciate good literature. Half of the plebs posting here in support of e-books would be better occupied browsing sites that celebrate their fascination with the new and being 'a la mode'. Leave this site for people who love the content of books. They won't of course, because these are people who love technology with a vengeance - it's predictable and doesn't involve unsettling things like emotion, irony, paradox etc, all the things you have to get to grips with if you are to become really mature. Unfortunately, however, it looks as if the pathetic adolescents with their puerile toys may very well inherit the earth. God knows there are enough of them. Frightening or what? Personally I blame way we educate our kids to value left-brain and belittle right-brain functions.

750,000 titles for download? Sounds great. Having just tried random searches for Peter Kay (Sound of Laughter, big on Waterstone's ebooks site; not on this one), John Buchan (assorted odd titles, but no 39 Steps, as can be found on Waterstone's, Smiths and elsewhere) and 'Cultural Amnesia' (Clive James, Macmillan e-book long available on other sites and the first one I ever downloaded; not here) and found them all missing, I'm having a wild guess that those 750,000 are a bunch of out-of-copyright and/or POD and/or old rubbish, but not the holy grail of an easy-to-use and comprehensively stocked UK e-book download retail site. When someone (at another wild guess, Amazon) finally offers a load of great books for easy download, they'll probably clean up and finally kick-start the e-books revolution.

Again. Fat finger strikes.

Come on Tesco. We need a reader at 39.99.

Sorry.

Come on tesco. We need a reader ar 39.99.

Ebooks, while they have their uses and I'm sure their fans, will never replace printed books for me, nor for a lot of people I speak to. I have a group on Facebook for people who prefer printed books and I've had a star letter published in Writing Magazine expressing how I feel about the subject. The latest issue has two letters of support in it from other readers. So long as both can exist side by side, I'm happy.

Jonathan,

It's not an argument. It's a fact. You've tried several you don't like any of them. So what? Some do some don't. It's like arguing over Betamax and VHS. The technology will improve. People don;t like them because they somehow see them threatening the legitamacy of the printed form. I don't see anyone horrified at the concept of audio books. The words are the thing.

@Martin "Half of the plebs posting here" - yikes! You come across as a kind of bookish, luddite Richard Littlejohn. You make the mistake of fudging an argument about delivery method by assuming the inherent value of the written word is relevant here. There are people who get excited by new forms of technology, but it does not follow that these people are not book lovers, or do not posess the "sufficient sensitivity to appreciate good literature" as you so charmingly put it. I'm sure you read online newspapers, but do not consider their content to be of any less value than their print counterparts. If there were not people interested in and excited by technology, then we would not have had the printing press, let alone the paperback or the e-book. Snobbish snipes at those who don't understand the nuances of "irony, paradox etc" have no place in this discussion - or anywhere, in my (e)book.

Please, eBookworm, not the same bullsh*t argument about how good e-readers are for taking on holiday. Drop your paperback in the water, get it covered in suncream or full of sand, accidentally leave it behind somewhere and you lose

My agent has an ebook reader so he can store lots of submitted books on it and can read on the train, on the move wherever. He can also wite notes/edit etc. Taking ten books with you on a three week holiday is a lot easier. I suppose we could all go back to Lindisfarne but personally I'd rather just listen to their music on some other new fangled technology. I don't own an ebook yet but people are reading my work on them and for some reason I can't bring myself to look down my nose at them. I'm sure it will come to me soon enough why!
:)

The Big W's e-reader is only

I agree with you Martin. As a teacher, I believe literature hasn't generally been well taught in schools - certainly not in State schools - boys in partcular have a real problem finding any significance or depth in it and inevitably tend to the sciences. You suspect that the majority of e-book fans will be male and most of what they'll read will be non-fiction or at best cheap "pot-boiler" fiction. It's a major problem frankly and I don't pretend to have the answer. It's doubly sad because you sense that the eager anticipation of "the e-book revolution" masks an unconscious desire to finally delve into the classics and the wisdom they contain; this will never find fulfillment of course precisely because the conscious focus is on the gadgetry and they will have no more motivation to read good literature than they do now.

I did of course mean aesthetic, rather than aeshetic, which I suppose loses me the moral high ground.

Martin, many thanks for the clarification. I suddenly see that what I'd mistakenly thought was a lifelong love of all kinds of books and reading was really just a coveting of those devices I hadn't yet realised would one day exist.

And, while I think about it, people who read paperbacks are obviously not quite the full ticket either, given it's the aeshetic experience (of a nice leather-bound hardback, for instance) and not the words on the page themselves that's really important.

Martin, just because people like new technology doesn't mean that they don't have "sufficient sensitivity to appreciate good literature".

Yes I love curling up with a printed book, but at the same time the ebook reader than be a lot more practical. I had to pay extra when I went on holiday last year due to the weight of the books I was taking with me.

Yes, Jonathan, I know that the holiday example is one that has been heard thousands of times already so I will give you another example.They are also of great use to university students. Many of my friends would be more than willing to pay out for a reader from their student loan. (FYI 2 classical history students, an english student and engineering student) two of them are women who are now having to see their doctor on a regular basis due to the back pain associated with carrying all their books round.

Also, so what if there isn't one that is "genuinely desirable" for you? They need to consider the whole of the market and at the moment the market is mainly there for people going on holiday and for students. Why not try constructive critisism? It would be a lot more useful I'm sure.

In terms of functionality, one of the functions I think is fantastic is the audio option. Normal audio books are good but having several on one device rather than having to change the tapes over seems so much better to me.

Personally I'm with Liz M. So long as both can exist side by side, I'm happy

and yes, i should probably have subbed my post first too!

My word, talk about book snobs. I adore rading books and on holiday can polish off a 300 pager in a day. I bought my touch screen Sony e-book reader in the US and it's perfect for, yes, when I'm on holiday. I don't have room to stash the 7 books required for a week-long break and I have never lost a book or put suntan lotion on one so why is it assumed everyone would do that? I'm happy to take a 500+ pager on the tube but thrilled there's an easy way to take with me my library of classics and literature from around the world I may not necessarily have found in a book shop. I was able to choose 100 free books so still plenty to get through. I just which someone had subbed them before turning them into PDF format........I'm hoping the price comes down and Sony stop being so anal with their software as UK and US models are not compatible and readers bought in the US can only download books from the US Sony e-bookstore.

Ross, if I said I was you wouldn't believe me and if I said I wasn't you wouldn't believe me.....This is a no through road.

'Boys 'n their toys sums it up.'

Actually that would be an interesting statistic to know. Probably is data on it somewhere.

Boys 'n their toys sums it up. Incidentally Martin, you're not Martin Amis are you? You sound uncannily like him

Are you lot getting the hint yet?

Ebooks, while they have their uses and I'm sure their fans, will never replace printed books for me, nor for a lot of people I speak to. I have a group on Facebook for people who prefer printed books and I've had a star letter published in Writing Magazine expressing how I feel about the subject. The latest issue has two letters of support in it from other readers. So long as both can exist side by side, I'm happy.

Come on tesco. We need a reader ar 39.99.

Again. Fat finger strikes.

Come on Tesco. We need a reader at 39.99.

Sorry.

750,000 titles for download? Sounds great. Having just tried random searches for Peter Kay (Sound of Laughter, big on Waterstone's ebooks site; not on this one), John Buchan (assorted odd titles, but no 39 Steps, as can be found on Waterstone's, Smiths and elsewhere) and 'Cultural Amnesia' (Clive James, Macmillan e-book long available on other sites and the first one I ever downloaded; not here) and found them all missing, I'm having a wild guess that those 750,000 are a bunch of out-of-copyright and/or POD and/or old rubbish, but not the holy grail of an easy-to-use and comprehensively stocked UK e-book download retail site. When someone (at another wild guess, Amazon) finally offers a load of great books for easy download, they'll probably clean up and finally kick-start the e-books revolution.

"Kick start" is about the right term for a technology that is only of interest to technology lovers, and of vanishing significance to book lovers and those with sufficient sensitivity to appreciate good literature. Half of the plebs posting here in support of e-books would be better occupied browsing sites that celebrate their fascination with the new and being 'a la mode'. Leave this site for people who love the content of books. They won't of course, because these are people who love technology with a vengeance - it's predictable and doesn't involve unsettling things like emotion, irony, paradox etc, all the things you have to get to grips with if you are to become really mature. Unfortunately, however, it looks as if the pathetic adolescents with their puerile toys may very well inherit the earth. God knows there are enough of them. Frightening or what? Personally I blame way we educate our kids to value left-brain and belittle right-brain functions.

Martin, many thanks for the clarification. I suddenly see that what I'd mistakenly thought was a lifelong love of all kinds of books and reading was really just a coveting of those devices I hadn't yet realised would one day exist.

And, while I think about it, people who read paperbacks are obviously not quite the full ticket either, given it's the aeshetic experience (of a nice leather-bound hardback, for instance) and not the words on the page themselves that's really important.

I did of course mean aesthetic, rather than aeshetic, which I suppose loses me the moral high ground.

I agree with you Martin. As a teacher, I believe literature hasn't generally been well taught in schools - certainly not in State schools - boys in partcular have a real problem finding any significance or depth in it and inevitably tend to the sciences. You suspect that the majority of e-book fans will be male and most of what they'll read will be non-fiction or at best cheap "pot-boiler" fiction. It's a major problem frankly and I don't pretend to have the answer. It's doubly sad because you sense that the eager anticipation of "the e-book revolution" masks an unconscious desire to finally delve into the classics and the wisdom they contain; this will never find fulfillment of course precisely because the conscious focus is on the gadgetry and they will have no more motivation to read good literature than they do now.

The Big W's e-reader is only

My agent has an ebook reader so he can store lots of submitted books on it and can read on the train, on the move wherever. He can also wite notes/edit etc. Taking ten books with you on a three week holiday is a lot easier. I suppose we could all go back to Lindisfarne but personally I'd rather just listen to their music on some other new fangled technology. I don't own an ebook yet but people are reading my work on them and for some reason I can't bring myself to look down my nose at them. I'm sure it will come to me soon enough why!
:)

Please, eBookworm, not the same bullsh*t argument about how good e-readers are for taking on holiday. Drop your paperback in the water, get it covered in suncream or full of sand, accidentally leave it behind somewhere and you lose

@Martin "Half of the plebs posting here" - yikes! You come across as a kind of bookish, luddite Richard Littlejohn. You make the mistake of fudging an argument about delivery method by assuming the inherent value of the written word is relevant here. There are people who get excited by new forms of technology, but it does not follow that these people are not book lovers, or do not posess the "sufficient sensitivity to appreciate good literature" as you so charmingly put it. I'm sure you read online newspapers, but do not consider their content to be of any less value than their print counterparts. If there were not people interested in and excited by technology, then we would not have had the printing press, let alone the paperback or the e-book. Snobbish snipes at those who don't understand the nuances of "irony, paradox etc" have no place in this discussion - or anywhere, in my (e)book.

Jonathan,

It's not an argument. It's a fact. You've tried several you don't like any of them. So what? Some do some don't. It's like arguing over Betamax and VHS. The technology will improve. People don;t like them because they somehow see them threatening the legitamacy of the printed form. I don't see anyone horrified at the concept of audio books. The words are the thing.

Boys 'n their toys sums it up. Incidentally Martin, you're not Martin Amis are you? You sound uncannily like him

'Boys 'n their toys sums it up.'

Actually that would be an interesting statistic to know. Probably is data on it somewhere.

Ross, if I said I was you wouldn't believe me and if I said I wasn't you wouldn't believe me.....This is a no through road.

My word, talk about book snobs. I adore rading books and on holiday can polish off a 300 pager in a day. I bought my touch screen Sony e-book reader in the US and it's perfect for, yes, when I'm on holiday. I don't have room to stash the 7 books required for a week-long break and I have never lost a book or put suntan lotion on one so why is it assumed everyone would do that? I'm happy to take a 500+ pager on the tube but thrilled there's an easy way to take with me my library of classics and literature from around the world I may not necessarily have found in a book shop. I was able to choose 100 free books so still plenty to get through. I just which someone had subbed them before turning them into PDF format........I'm hoping the price comes down and Sony stop being so anal with their software as UK and US models are not compatible and readers bought in the US can only download books from the US Sony e-bookstore.

and yes, i should probably have subbed my post first too!

Martin, just because people like new technology doesn't mean that they don't have "sufficient sensitivity to appreciate good literature".

Yes I love curling up with a printed book, but at the same time the ebook reader than be a lot more practical. I had to pay extra when I went on holiday last year due to the weight of the books I was taking with me.

Yes, Jonathan, I know that the holiday example is one that has been heard thousands of times already so I will give you another example.They are also of great use to university students. Many of my friends would be more than willing to pay out for a reader from their student loan. (FYI 2 classical history students, an english student and engineering student) two of them are women who are now having to see their doctor on a regular basis due to the back pain associated with carrying all their books round.

Also, so what if there isn't one that is "genuinely desirable" for you? They need to consider the whole of the market and at the moment the market is mainly there for people going on holiday and for students. Why not try constructive critisism? It would be a lot more useful I'm sure.

In terms of functionality, one of the functions I think is fantastic is the audio option. Normal audio books are good but having several on one device rather than having to change the tapes over seems so much better to me.

Personally I'm with Liz M. So long as both can exist side by side, I'm happy

Martin - maybe, but I suspect it's a no through road in the general area of Primrose Hill.

Wow. More forward thinking from the commentators who brought you 'Bring back the NBA now!'

Emma: exist side by side? Of course - and anyway we have no choice. Try taking toys off kids and merry hell is let loose. My point is that the extreme fascination with technology is perverse in (self-styled) "book lovers" (bad enough in the general population). We shall see, but my guess is that the market will rapidly bifurcate into the techno-nerds and those who are happy with the traditional formats. The latter will resemble those with mobile phones who could theoretically have meaningful communication with another on their devices but never do; the nature of the thing has attracted an altogether different kind of person and/or created a different and extremely superficial intercourse (ever overheard these crass non-conversations?)

In my previous post that should be "the former" not "the latter", obviously. Where are proof-readers when you need them?

I disagree, Martin. You cannot drive a technolgical revolution with a product which clearly isn't up to scratch yet. At the moment, only amazon.com even offer wireless (although I hear that others may follow suit relatively soon). There's also a format war coming which is going to put a fair few ebook manufacturers out of business and put off a lot of potential buyers until it's resolved. I'm not remotely convinced that many people are going to want to pay

Bring back papyrus. Vomit on the graves of Caxton, Bell and Edison. Take me back to my roots, these new ones are too chewy. Nostalgia? Bring it back, it wasn't broken. Nice one, Martin. Another glass of mead?

Martin - "My point is that the extreme fascination with technology is perverse in (self-styled) "book lovers" (bad enough in the general population)" In what way is it perverse? Also, why do you only count it as perverse when it's technology about books? pdfs have been available for download on the internet for ages and several people use them, not just "techno-nerds" and Jonathan - I realise that you don't think the holiday argument is valid but there are many other people who would use an ebook reader. The main other reason would be students and teachers, though they need to bring out more educational books in the right format. For other readers who don't download as much - why would they need to when they've got 100 free titles? If they took the titles out of the deal then they could probably bring the price down even more so that it was easier for people to afford. However, there are a lot of classics in those 100 titles which people may not read otherwise

Jonathan: Possibly .... but I'm not interested in driving a "technological revolution". I'm trying to be an advocate for other ways that are sadly neglected in the pell-mell rush for the latest consumer durables, even though they may carry the superficial imprimateur of "literature". That said - I like your reasoned and reasonable reponse.

Does the cooler ebook have colour screen for graphic novels?

Bought a cool-er from Argos 2 weeks ago, the battery is supposed to last 8000 pages. Sadly the device didn't go further than 1200 before dying ...

Not really happy right now.

@Laurent A: I have the same problem with the Elonex reader, which is essentially identical to the Cool-Er in hardware terms (same thing, different funny hat, exciting plastic, label and badge combo). I realise that this information doesn't help you at all, but my Sony reader does not have this problem. It has a battery life of around the 8000 page turns promised. I'd contact Elonex and ask them why the battery life sucks so much, but unfortunately they closed their online store when Borders went bust and appear to be keeping a low profile (or as some would call it, 'hiding'). Unless and until the problem is addressed, or I get sufficiently ticked off to unscrew the battery compartment and sellotape in a larger-capacity lithium-polymer battery, I'd regretfully have to state that the device is a total washout in terms of battery life, and I wouldn't advise getting one :-(

As to the discussions earlier on this thread, I am currently studying Euripides' Medea on the Sony... Additionally, anybody whose most imaginative portrayal of 'holiday' is limited to 'lazing on beach all day with a paperback novel' is probably the sort of person who doesn't need an ebook reader, or indeed anything else implying any complexity or depth greater than the sort of book with a presidential seal and/or the words 'Dan Brown' on the cover (hey, this vicious typecasting is fun! I can see why you're all so fond of it!).